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many americans thinking it's already the law. what is the disconnect in our democracy that allows this? >> it's not even the will. let's remember, it's the safety of the american public. i mean, we can demonstrate how this will save lives. right now n now on arms list.com, there's 73,000 guns available for sale. 94% of them are under this geist of private sales so they don't require background checks. every day it goes on, lives hang in the balance. it really is just that. it's not any deeper. there's a pure disconnect between what the american public wants. there are things to take heart in and inspiration from. several months ago, there would have been a filibuster on this. but these guys knew when the newtown families visited, when americans started calling their congress people, they knew that they were being watched and they knew they at least had to have the conversation. there was a bipartisan agreement with two a-rated nra senators. six voted in favor of this. the original brady bill pertaining to 60% of gun sales, it too
many americans thinking it's already the law. what is the disconnect in our democracy that allows this? >> it's not even the will. let's remember, it's the safety of the american public. i mean, we can demonstrate how this will save lives. right now n now on arms list.com, there's 73,000 guns available for sale. 94% of them are under this geist of private sales so they don't require background checks. every day it goes on, lives hang in the balance. it really is just that. it's not any...
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>> i just thing that's good law enforcement by all of the law enforcement agencies. even though it appears that the fbi is kind of the lead in this, and that's a good thing. somebody's got to be the lead. but all of these people are working together and their talents and trade and information gathered and so forth and i think that's what they have done is put this together and they've had law enforcement agencies not just in the boston area but perhaps throughout the country and the u.s. as to what information they have as to what clues they may have developed as the direction that they go. and trust me, oftentimes you might start off going and you think that's the right direction and then somebody brings in another bundle of information and you realize that you need go another course. but that's good law enforcement and good working together. >> all right. don clark, thank you. >> thank you. >> we saw the city come together this morning at the in ter faith service, and straight ahead another moving moment that will show how boston is standing together. you're going
>> i just thing that's good law enforcement by all of the law enforcement agencies. even though it appears that the fbi is kind of the lead in this, and that's a good thing. somebody's got to be the lead. but all of these people are working together and their talents and trade and information gathered and so forth and i think that's what they have done is put this together and they've had law enforcement agencies not just in the boston area but perhaps throughout the country and the u.s....
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he's a law-abiding citizen. we're not going after law-abiding citizens. as the chief suggested, background checks is to target persons who are prohibited from purchasing and owning firearms. that's who we're going after. and to, you know, have these people talk to us and look us in the eye and say, well, what about the 2%? well, what about, you know, how long it takes to have a background check? what about how inconvenient it is to have a background check? i find that hog wash. americans have spoken up. they want a background check on all gun buyers. we're going to make it happen. you know, these senators are out of touch and they're not listening and i think some of their staff have treated the family members, you know, uncaring and it's unacceptable. >> chief flynn, just speaking to that point, and to the nra talking points, the nra is actually running a new ad that says, most police don't want background checks and that they don't think they work. which is obviously based on a completely unscientific sir vain and it's a completely false set of facts wh
he's a law-abiding citizen. we're not going after law-abiding citizens. as the chief suggested, background checks is to target persons who are prohibited from purchasing and owning firearms. that's who we're going after. and to, you know, have these people talk to us and look us in the eye and say, well, what about the 2%? well, what about, you know, how long it takes to have a background check? what about how inconvenient it is to have a background check? i find that hog wash. americans have...
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that's the law. you can't tell by looking at someone if a judge has declared a person to be mentally defective. you cannot tell by looking at a person if they are a convicted felon. if you are either of those things, the law says you cannot buy a gun. here is how we check to see if you are a felon or mentally ill before you buy a gun in this country. >> the crew went north to kings port, tennessee to a saturday morning local gun show held in a convention center. it was a smith & wesson mp 45 caliber semi-automatic that first caught our producers eye. asking price, $625. >> it's not brand spanking new. >> cash and carry? >> but it's early and the team opts to keep looking. 10 to 20 minutes later, they circle back to the same table, negotiating for the same gun. >> it's a deal. no background check. it's not needed for a private sale. but the serial is legally required to check id like a driver's license, to make sure the buyer is not from out-of-state. in this case, no identification asked for, no pape
that's the law. you can't tell by looking at someone if a judge has declared a person to be mentally defective. you cannot tell by looking at a person if they are a convicted felon. if you are either of those things, the law says you cannot buy a gun. here is how we check to see if you are a felon or mentally ill before you buy a gun in this country. >> the crew went north to kings port, tennessee to a saturday morning local gun show held in a convention center. it was a smith &...
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most americans think that's already the law. and a few minutes ago, 90% of democrats in the senate voted for that idea. but it's not going to happen. because 90% of republicans in the senate just voted against that idea. a majority of senators voted yes to protecting more of our citizens with smarter background checks. but by this continuing distortion of senate rules, a minority was able to block it from moving forward. i'm going to speak plainly and honestly about what's happened here. because the american people are trying to figure out, how can something have 90% support and yet not happen? we had a democrat and a republican, both gun owners, both fierce defenders of our second amendment, with "a" grades from the nra, come together and work together to write a common sense compromise on background checks. and i want to thank joe manchin and pat toomey for their courage in doing that. that was not easy. given their traditional strong support for second amendment rights. as they said, nobody could honestly claim that the packa
most americans think that's already the law. and a few minutes ago, 90% of democrats in the senate voted for that idea. but it's not going to happen. because 90% of republicans in the senate just voted against that idea. a majority of senators voted yes to protecting more of our citizens with smarter background checks. but by this continuing distortion of senate rules, a minority was able to block it from moving forward. i'm going to speak plainly and honestly about what's happened here....
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. >> what advocates call common sense gun laws. plus partisan groups working on immigration reform. it will formally unveil a big proposal we've been waiting for but some republicans are already voicing opposition. we'll speak with our guest. find us on twitter or at "newsnation." [ phil ] when you have joint pain and stiffness... accomplishing even little things can become major victories. i'm phil mickelson, pro golfer. when i was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis, my rheumatologist prescribed enbrel for my pain and stiffness, and to help stop joint damage. [ male announcer ] enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, nervous system and blood disorders, and allergic reactions have occurred. before starting enbrel, your doctor should test you for tuberculosis and discuss whether you've been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. you should not start enbrel if you have an infection like the flu. tell your doctor if you're prone to infections, have cuts or sores, hav
. >> what advocates call common sense gun laws. plus partisan groups working on immigration reform. it will formally unveil a big proposal we've been waiting for but some republicans are already voicing opposition. we'll speak with our guest. find us on twitter or at "newsnation." [ phil ] when you have joint pain and stiffness... accomplishing even little things can become major victories. i'm phil mickelson, pro golfer. when i was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis, my...
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are there challenges for law enforcement in that as well? >> i think in a case like this, it works in law enforcement's you know, benefit. and benefit's law enforcement in solving this more quickly than we could have maybe ten or 15 years ago. you know, civil libertarians will always say you have no right to do this or this or this. in this case, the cameras being there and the fact the people were shooting videos, that may be helpful to law enforcement, will probably help them solve it in a more expedient way. >> thank you. >> thank you for having me. >>. asional have constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues... with three strains of good bacteria. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'l
are there challenges for law enforcement in that as well? >> i think in a case like this, it works in law enforcement's you know, benefit. and benefit's law enforcement in solving this more quickly than we could have maybe ten or 15 years ago. you know, civil libertarians will always say you have no right to do this or this or this. in this case, the cameras being there and the fact the people were shooting videos, that may be helpful to law enforcement, will probably help them solve it...
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out there lingering and people were wondering, well, if there's smoke is there fire here, maybe did law enforcement have some other information to share, in the middle of that scrum and reporters and people just collected at the courthouse, the courthouse ended up getting cleared itself and it was not apparent for awhile why they did that. authorities later said it was a bomb threat that caused the evacuation of the courthouse and the surrounding area and a bomb threat is always scary, perhaps more so right now, but while that was going on today at the federal courthouse in boston, while all the media was gathered there wondering if the inaccurate reports were going to turn out to maybe be accurate, while this was happening today, it added to the media-generated chaos. joining us now, pete williams, who i should tell you, is in the same building i am in but is at another camera because he needs to be close to his desk phone. it truly is that kind of day in the news, pete. thank you very much for being here. >> you bet. >> what do we know about what authorities have been able to find fro
out there lingering and people were wondering, well, if there's smoke is there fire here, maybe did law enforcement have some other information to share, in the middle of that scrum and reporters and people just collected at the courthouse, the courthouse ended up getting cleared itself and it was not apparent for awhile why they did that. authorities later said it was a bomb threat that caused the evacuation of the courthouse and the surrounding area and a bomb threat is always scary, perhaps...
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that for the entirety of the law enforcement should be combhited to their efforts. >> court documents contain new details about thursday night's carjacking. the fbi show tamerlan and dzhokhar tsarnaev in cambridge at a gas station where they drove with the owner of the suv they carjacked. one began the carjacking by pointing a gun at the driver and saying, "did you hear about the boston explosion? i did get" the carjacker showed the driver he had bullets in his gun according to fbi and said, "i'm serious." at the shooting in watertown where tamerlan was killed, other explosives were found. a boston police commissioner says that's one reason he thinks the brothers planned other attacks. >> we got to step over some unexploded devices that they threw at the officers and i can only understand from that that they had other targets. they were going other places. >> that's nbc news' pete williams reporting. >>> well, today members of the house will get a top secret briefing on the boston bombings. meanwhile, the head of the senate intelligence committee is demanding the fbi explain why more
that for the entirety of the law enforcement should be combhited to their efforts. >> court documents contain new details about thursday night's carjacking. the fbi show tamerlan and dzhokhar tsarnaev in cambridge at a gas station where they drove with the owner of the suv they carjacked. one began the carjacking by pointing a gun at the driver and saying, "did you hear about the boston explosion? i did get" the carjacker showed the driver he had bullets in his gun according to...
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there is a provision that allows in case law that allows for law enforcement to wait if they think there is a national security threat or a danger to the public until they've talked to the person and established there isn't a danger to the public or gotten the information they need. then they can read the miranda rights. that's what the fbi has done in this case. that's what they did in the new york time square bomber. that worked quite well. they talk to him for a while before they read him his rights. then they read him his rights. he kept and he provided very valuable information. we know that the traditional civilian court system founded by the founding fathers can work in this situation. >> let me ask you a couple questions. if the russian government was so concerned about tamerlan as to alert our fbi and our government, and warrant an investigation of him, why are we so sure that dzhokhar is not connected to a cell of some sort back at home that might then make him an enemy combatant and then, two, if he is name an enemy combatant and treated as an everybody me combatant, that does
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i have been involved in law enforcement for 30 years plus. i've seen it transcend. i love. i'm a huge advocate of video cameras and i'd many much rather have the pleasure of having a video camera than not having it. >> you found it incredibly important in the investigate i have work you have done to have the images that are sitting in the background as we go about everyday life. we learn ed the department store in boston or something like that. >> i'm here to tell you that video cameras deter and sometimes prevent crimes. they solve cases. this particular case, if you look at the video footage that was released today and sure you see suspect, one, suspect two but there are other things you want top see, as well. if you notice there's a young lady walking in front of the suspect with green balloons in her hands. if you remember, when the first explosion went off, those green balloons were set off in the air. smaes that's somebody you want to locate and find. other people who see other things. >> so the usefulness of this and i understand why that is the case, certainly in th
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got in the way of catching the terrorists and those stories will call for new laws. we need to be very clear what we want from law enforcement and what we want them to do when confronted with a situation like what they apparently confronted with the older tsarnaev brother. let's bring in carol rose executive director of the aclu of massachusetts. carol, i want your response to this story that is emerging that this was the fbi dropping the ball. >> right. i mean, first we don't have all the information about exactly what happened. so we're all speaking from news reports and not from actual knowledge. >> do it every night. >> with that noted, you have to wonder, i'm sure congress will try to find out, what happened? the fbi clearly wasn't lacking the authority. they had the authority presumably to interview this guy but they apparently didn't have the ability or willing necessary or whatever to do the followup. one has to go back to the question about some of these theories that are now discredited about radicalization. is it possible that this guy didn't fit the profi
got in the way of catching the terrorists and those stories will call for new laws. we need to be very clear what we want from law enforcement and what we want them to do when confronted with a situation like what they apparently confronted with the older tsarnaev brother. let's bring in carol rose executive director of the aclu of massachusetts. carol, i want your response to this story that is emerging that this was the fbi dropping the ball. >> right. i mean, first we don't have all...
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>> the best case scenario for law enforcement is to keep it within law enforcement, make the identification and the arrest before you go public and not complicate it, not get lo lookalikes. there's going to be tens and thousands of phone calls that come in. somebody is going to say it's my ne neighbor. someone is going to call in and say that's my ex-boyfriend. true fact? we don't know. but chris, there is a needle in a haystack and in this case, two needles and i really believe -- i mean, a picture is worth a million words right now. nationally and internationally, there are people picking up the phone, there are people sitting down in front of a computer looking at these guys and saying i think i know one of these guys and we see one guy talking on a phone t appears to be. maybe he's faking it. maybe he's talking on a phone. if he's talking on a phone, the fbi and other agency also grab that signal out of the air at that exact second and we'll know who he was talking to. if we can't find them, let's find somebody they know and that will lead us back to these two guys. this is what all gov
>> the best case scenario for law enforcement is to keep it within law enforcement, make the identification and the arrest before you go public and not complicate it, not get lo lookalikes. there's going to be tens and thousands of phone calls that come in. somebody is going to say it's my ne neighbor. someone is going to call in and say that's my ex-boyfriend. true fact? we don't know. but chris, there is a needle in a haystack and in this case, two needles and i really believe -- i...
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. >> switching identities to fool law enforcement is in the mckinney brothers playbook as perry explains. >> he got a dui and used my name. he was on probation, so i took it. so i ended up taking the dui for him. so the first dui i ever got, i really didn't get. >> like, what's your name? i'm like, my name's perry mckinney. and it's funny because they took pictures of my tattoo and it says herbie on it right there and i signed the paper and started to sign it herbie and messed up and put perry. >> it's funny because he went to court like three weeks later for it. >> my brother was like, honestly judge, i don't remember any of this. he said, i can't believe i'm even here. >> not long after, perry found himself in trouble with police and decided it was time for pay back. >> i was pretty intoxicated and i used my brother's name and social security number, which worked, as well. so i got him back. i got pulled over on our birthday. so i got him good. happy birthday. >> while the brothers can laugh over their exploits with drugs and alcohol, they're also aware of the costs. between them, they
. >> switching identities to fool law enforcement is in the mckinney brothers playbook as perry explains. >> he got a dui and used my name. he was on probation, so i took it. so i ended up taking the dui for him. so the first dui i ever got, i really didn't get. >> like, what's your name? i'm like, my name's perry mckinney. and it's funny because they took pictures of my tattoo and it says herbie on it right there and i signed the paper and started to sign it herbie and messed...
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you couldn't have a better law enforcement investigative community there. obviously, the good thing and i think mr. van zandt focused on it, is the fact that you had an opportunity hopefully to observe a lot of things a as a result of cameras. that comment about the bomb dogs coming in apparently before the placement of these devices. if each of them are 20 pounds apiece, that's a pretty burly person could handle that. may have been two people like tim mcveigh and one of his associates in oak city. they need a lucky break. state trooper who saw that broken license plate, but we've got to get to the bottom of it. we will and whoever's responsible will be tried and convicted and i think mercifully, hopefully, if they are responsible for this horrific act, will be executed d as we did tim mcveigh. >> do you think as clint just sukted, this may well will a timothy mcveigh type? >> it's really hard to say. i'm one who thinks and this is not a cynical statement, but i think most people act and react with a motive. and this could be a situation where someone's try
you couldn't have a better law enforcement investigative community there. obviously, the good thing and i think mr. van zandt focused on it, is the fact that you had an opportunity hopefully to observe a lot of things a as a result of cameras. that comment about the bomb dogs coming in apparently before the placement of these devices. if each of them are 20 pounds apiece, that's a pretty burly person could handle that. may have been two people like tim mcveigh and one of his associates in oak...
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scooter gave up his law practice, his white shoe law firm and everything to serve cheney and everyone in the country in his way. he was talking to everybody for cheney. at the time, cheney stepped back and acted like he had nothing to do with it. which is it, is he a soldier or an outlaw? >> don't forget, he lied for dick cheney. >> i know he did. how can he say it both ways, he wasn't doing our job for us and yet he died as a soldier on the field? your thoughts, wayne, because you brought it up. i don't know much about this relationship. why is he keeping a secret, what cheney told him to do? >> part of the key here is to look at it from cheney's point of view and bush's point of view. cheney believes it and george bush, what he saw at the end of his eighth year tenure who is elbowing him saying come on, the law be damned, let's give this guy a pardon, it was exactly the kind of thing that bush himself found repulsive in the case of other presidents, including bill clinton, he gave some pardons. >> he thought this is something i don't like. it was one guy who was the decider and it w
scooter gave up his law practice, his white shoe law firm and everything to serve cheney and everyone in the country in his way. he was talking to everybody for cheney. at the time, cheney stepped back and acted like he had nothing to do with it. which is it, is he a soldier or an outlaw? >> don't forget, he lied for dick cheney. >> i know he did. how can he say it both ways, he wasn't doing our job for us and yet he died as a soldier on the field? your thoughts, wayne, because you...
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there's a law called the national defense act of 2012 that says specifically u.s. citizens cannot be tried in military tribunals. they're arguing he should be questioned as an enemy combatant and then turned over to the civilian justice system. i don't think this will change their view. and, of course, what the fbi says is this is what he has told them. but they have to now verify this. and of course, they are working to do that. >> all right. nbc justice correspondent pete williams. once again, thank you very much. >> you bet. >> and eugene robinson, thank you, as well. we'll be reading your column in the "washington post." >> and let me ask you quickly. are you surprised your home state of south carolina won on this background check issue is an 86/12 proposition? >> i am not surprised. i am floored. i know that district. and look at it on the map. i mean, if it's 86/12 in that district, then this ought to be over. and politicians ought to take a look at that because that's a very, very conservative swath of the state. and there you have the numbers. it's incredib
there's a law called the national defense act of 2012 that says specifically u.s. citizens cannot be tried in military tribunals. they're arguing he should be questioned as an enemy combatant and then turned over to the civilian justice system. i don't think this will change their view. and, of course, what the fbi says is this is what he has told them. but they have to now verify this. and of course, they are working to do that. >> all right. nbc justice correspondent pete williams. once...
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supported by law enforcement officers. it was a common sense plan, but senator mcconnell ignored the will of the people. >> and democrats who voted against background checks or better background checks for gun buyers are hardly off the hook. the progressive change campaign committee ran this ad in seven newspapers across montana on sunday. this sunday. featuring local gun owners angry about senator max baucus' vote. joining me right now, david axelrod, former obama senior adviser. msnb political analyst and republican strategist john feehery. somehow i have a different attitude towards the republicans and the democrats who voted on this thing. i don't know why it is because i'm not always partisan. but i really do have a problem with mitch mcconnell. i would like to see him get stung hard on this one. why do i think like that? because he tends to be an s.o.b. generally? does anybody like that guy? >> you don't like mr. mcconnell but i like him. >> you like mr. mcconnell. >> i don't think this is going to hurt him. >> you'r
supported by law enforcement officers. it was a common sense plan, but senator mcconnell ignored the will of the people. >> and democrats who voted against background checks or better background checks for gun buyers are hardly off the hook. the progressive change campaign committee ran this ad in seven newspapers across montana on sunday. this sunday. featuring local gun owners angry about senator max baucus' vote. joining me right now, david axelrod, former obama senior adviser. msnb...
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at that point certainly we should be talking about notifying local law enforcement and other agencies. the other agencies were aware of this. i think, you know, in a case like this, it's always easy to look back and say well, they did this wrong or did that wrong. so far i got to be honest with you, i haven't seen any evidence of that. there was some question about whether we got the proper notification to the airport when tamerlan came back into the united states. the question is would that have mattered because there still wasn't anything in the file to indicate that he was going to be a problem. now, having said all that, clearly one of my principles of leadership is you always do an after action assessment and you say what worked and what didn't work? there may be some systems things that we need to work out here. i don't know. it's a legitimate question to discuss as to whether every one of those 20,000 tips and even those that come up negative are passed to local law enforcement. at some point this is america. >> independent senator angus king of maine. thank you for your time.
at that point certainly we should be talking about notifying local law enforcement and other agencies. the other agencies were aware of this. i think, you know, in a case like this, it's always easy to look back and say well, they did this wrong or did that wrong. so far i got to be honest with you, i haven't seen any evidence of that. there was some question about whether we got the proper notification to the airport when tamerlan came back into the united states. the question is would that...
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they are law abiding. they go through a background check when they purchase their firearm and want everybody else to go through a background check. to speculate that because a state like wisconsin, you know, a tradition of gun ownership, those are the very people that understand the responsibility and this t lethality of a firearm and don't want the criminals. those persons dangerously mentally ill giving them a bad name. i would speculate that, you know, we are going to see a different sort of gun owner emerge. there is -- serious but small percentage of gun owners who are radical and -- you know, just fire, you know, and threaten and -- let their voices be heard. i suggest that they are a minority of gun owners. >> the biggest category we have to get to is the rank and files, biggest category we have. we are going through that after this. >>> life is full of surprises except when it isn't. that brings us to the anti-background senators that followed the script perfectly. they are senators that don't alwa
they are law abiding. they go through a background check when they purchase their firearm and want everybody else to go through a background check. to speculate that because a state like wisconsin, you know, a tradition of gun ownership, those are the very people that understand the responsibility and this t lethality of a firearm and don't want the criminals. those persons dangerously mentally ill giving them a bad name. i would speculate that, you know, we are going to see a different sort of...
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same gun control laws. different. policy is changing. >> half of the guns used in crime in chicago flow in from indiana, for example. >> same thing in new york from north carolina and from virginia and from florida. i'd say three-quarters of the guns i seized as a prosecutor and mayor came from outside new york city. i seized them and took them out of the hands of the bad guys. that's what you have to do. you have to have a aggressive -- >> tough trafficking laws is important? >> all of these things is important. the president might have done something like bill clinton did with the comprehensive crime control bill. put together this massive piece of legislation. stuff that conservatives and liberals hated and vice versa. i supported it because it provided a hundred thousand cops, it provided the death penalty restored. liberals supported it because it supplied a lot of money for rehabilitation programs, for improving jails, for cutting down on lengths of stay in jail at times with different kinds of programs. and it
same gun control laws. different. policy is changing. >> half of the guns used in crime in chicago flow in from indiana, for example. >> same thing in new york from north carolina and from virginia and from florida. i'd say three-quarters of the guns i seized as a prosecutor and mayor came from outside new york city. i seized them and took them out of the hands of the bad guys. that's what you have to do. you have to have a aggressive -- >> tough trafficking laws is important?...
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i play by the laws. i play by the rules. and if i'm playing by the rules, then everybody should have to play by the rules. gun shop owners still can't figure out why they have to check to make sure somebody is not a terrorist or a gang member or a criminal. but gun show don't have to do it and people on the internet don't have to do it. this system is so broken. and every name up there that you're seeing that voted no, they have no excuse. they have no good excuse. they come up with these lame feeble excuses because they are cowarding in the corner and they are afraid of the nra their only two excuses is, one, well, you know, this may lead to a national begun registry. that's a lie because joe manchin specifically put in a piece of the bill that if any of these names were held and any registry were started, the person doing it would be is sent to jail for 15 years. it would be a felony. they would throw them in jail and throw away the key. so that's a lie. so when you hear that in the future, just know whoever is telling you
i play by the laws. i play by the rules. and if i'm playing by the rules, then everybody should have to play by the rules. gun shop owners still can't figure out why they have to check to make sure somebody is not a terrorist or a gang member or a criminal. but gun show don't have to do it and people on the internet don't have to do it. this system is so broken. and every name up there that you're seeing that voted no, they have no excuse. they have no good excuse. they come up with these lame...
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also, the fact we can't even pass a gun trafficking law, a national gun trafficking law that stops gang members from passing gun to gun to gun, who's against that? i don't understand how anybody could be against tough gun trafficking legislation. or background checks for criminals and terrorists. >> it's the same dynamic. but i think the dynamic is going to change. you're in one lane or the other. to get more people to cross lanes we've got to have an election cycle. >> senator bob casey, thank you very much for being on the show today. >> thank you. >>> tomorrow on "morning joe" -- >> i love, mika, the daily news covered it. you flashed. >> yeah. >> and the one last week. right after the lost vote. >> no. i mean, it's just -- absolutely, after the lost vote. >> talking about the cowards on the hill. >> mm-hmm. tomorrow on "morning joe" google executive chairman eric schmidt joins us here onset. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. ♪ [ male announcer ] purpose elevates what we do. raises it to a more meaningful place. makes us live what we do, love what we do and fills o
also, the fact we can't even pass a gun trafficking law, a national gun trafficking law that stops gang members from passing gun to gun to gun, who's against that? i don't understand how anybody could be against tough gun trafficking legislation. or background checks for criminals and terrorists. >> it's the same dynamic. but i think the dynamic is going to change. you're in one lane or the other. to get more people to cross lanes we've got to have an election cycle. >> senator bob...